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Listening to the Voice of the Field: The Great Conductor and the Black HoleThomas Hubl and Aftab Omer in Conversation on Collective Trauma and Social Healing

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Episode Description

In this wide-ranging and emergent conversation, Thomas Hubl and Aftab Omer explore collective trauma, social healing, and the ways in which scientific inquiry and mystical understanding inform the challenging work of collective trauma practitioners. Aftab and Thomas share their reflections on related themes including the COVID-19 pandemic, collective presencing, the intimate internet, and the power of creative surrender.

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Aftab Omer

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Thomas Hübl


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Aftab Omer

Aftab Omer, Ph.D. is a sociologist, psychologist, futurist and the president of Meridian University. Raised in Pakistan, India, Hawaii, and Turkey, he was educated at the universities of M.I.T, Harvard and Brandeis. His publications have addressed the topics of transformative learning, cultural leadership, generative entrepreneurship and the power of imagination. His work includes assisting organizations in tapping the creative potentials of conflict, diversity, and complexity. Formerly the president of the Council for Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychologies, he is a Fellow of the International Futures Forum and the World Academy of Arts and Sciences.

Thomas Hubl

Monica Sharma is a physician and epidemiologist, who spent 22 years at the United Nations with a focus on developing leaders In many countries around the world. Her book, Radical Transformative Leadership, admired by authors like Peter Senge and Daniel Goleman offers a coherent model for practitioners of transformative leadership. In the midst of the interlocking and cascading crises that people around the world are enduring, Monica‘s work is of critical importance.